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Over the past week, we've seen a number of wide ranging attempts within our community to detail various misinterpretations of Copyright Law in particular in relation to tracing.  In order to provide clarification in this area, this article presents to you an easy break down of the guidelines which we have had in place for over 2 years, and our policies specific to this particular method of creating art.


First of all, let's take a moment to go over our core values.

C O M M U N I T Y


We believe that our community is our most important resource and we strive to act in ways that nurture and encourage its growth, development and ultimately its ongoing success. We err on the side of the artist.


R E S P E C T


We treat each other with respect, as we believe that every staff member, volunteer, and member is a contributing factor to deviantART's success. We acknowledge that even those that challenge our patience offer important lessons we can learn from and strive to do so.


E X C E L L E N C E


We share a passion for excellence, quality and creativity in everything we do and strive to instill these values in our community.


A R T I S T S


We are artists and we reserve time for creative expression. We recognize the importance of nurturing our inner artist, as not only beneficial to ourselves, but also integral to our connection with the community.


T R U S T


We build trust among ourselves and within the community by being true to our word. We speak honestly and with integrity and hold ourselves personally accountable to deliver on commitments we've made.


E M P O W E R


We believe in a commitment to continuous learning and improvement, and maintaining open, positive communication that encourages and fosters creative genius.


With these values in mind, we can now begin to look at the key areas which appear to cause confusion, and provide you with a final guideline to assist you in understanding our view regarding tracing and the ways in which we enforce any associated policy.


WHO SAYS TRACING ISN'T ART!?



That's something many people believe. Many people believe that photography isn't art either, or that photomanipulation is cheating. Some people say rolling on a canvas nude whilst covered with paint results in art. Some disagree. The debate "What is art?" is something which will go on forever, and will be answered differently by every individual to which the question is posed. There are some people who believe that photographing a dog as it starves to death is art, and back in the 1960's Piero Manzoni provided us with "Merda d'Artista" - - he sealed his excrement (that's poop for you newbs) in a bunch of cans, which he signed, mounted and then sold as art. We are aware that some people reading this article right now believe that tracing is not an art -- and that's ok, we respect your right to have your own opinion, and this does not prevent you from participating in our community

At deviantART we believe that tracing has a place in our community. We consider it to be a valid learning tool and a technique which has been used long before we had any such applications such as Illustrator or Photoshop. Tracing is how Michelangelo's assistants transferred his "cartoons" onto the ceiling of the Sistine Chappell.  We believe that it is the right of any individual to express themselves within our policies and to share their creativity with the community, interact with other deviants and grow as an artist.


YOU GUYS ARE BREAKING THE LAW!



DeviantART has a clearly stated copyright policy. We provide an easily accessed mechanism on deviantART for the copyright owner to request that we correct any alleged infringements of copyright interests.  Still, deviantART also respects and promotes artistic expression in its very many forms.  

Certain genres of art are more derivative than others.  Collage, for example, is typically done entirely with "found" images gleaned from a variety of sources but mostly copyrighted.  There are only so many ways to photograph a rose and only so many ways to draw the Taj Mahal.  A copyright will only attach to the very specifics of the image in those circumstances and not at all to the subject matter.

The law of copyright, written to protect the work of artists, also has overt protections for artists when they use, borrow or incorporate the copyrighted works of others.  Some of these protections are called fair use.  Fair use is necessarily fuzzy because it balances the conflict between the protection of copyrighted works and the use of copyrighted works.  Fair use permits Jeff Koons, to make and sell much of his sculpture which is largely derivative of cultural icons, many of which are copyrighted in their original states.  Fair use permitted Andy Warhol to do silkscreen works incorporating famous, copyrighted photographs.
   

Fair use can apply when there is a reason to copy in order to make a new artistic statement. The analysis of whether a given use is a "fair use" is the most complex and nuanced in copyright law.  Among the factors it considers is whether the use is commercial or non-commercial.  Many uses of works on deviantART are entirely non-commercial. We do not permit the sale of FanArt within our Print Store because we want to avoid involvement in a commercial exploitation of a copyrighted character.

In simple terms, "Fair use" is a legal concept that allows exceptions to copyright law, defined by how much of the original is used, how and why the original is used, what the new work is used for and how the original artwork is affected by the new work.

Although the rights given to a copyright owner are extensive and include the exclusive right to permit others to make copies of the work, copyright owners are not required to use those rights and are also not required to police or attempt to stop infringements of the copyright by others.  The copyright itself survives and the copyright owner can engage in selective policing without essentially any reduction in the level of protection they can later claim if they need to.  This is unlike trademarks and patent laws.  When you consider that a copyright lasts for the life of the author plus 50 or 70 years after his or her death, it is impossible to imagine a copyright owner of a popular work suing everybody who might be involved in infringement.  There is, in fact, a rational expectation that only meaningful infringements, ones that result in a significant economic harm, will be pursued by copyright owners.  For example, there is a concept called "de minimis" infringement applied by Courts to deny relief to a copyright owner essentially on the "no harm, no foul" premise.

There are many circumstances where copyright owners freely and openly encourage and support the use of their works by others.  Stock images are frequently dedicated for open use in non-commercial applications.  Fan art is also one of these situations.

With this in mind, we welcome artists who prefer to use tracing as a method of expression to participate in our community, providing they meet with the simple guidelines detailed below.

OUR POLICY IN PLAIN ENGLISH



We allow for the submission of completed traced works within the FanArt Galleries providing it is a tracing -- not just a copy -- and you bring your own, original elements into the completed deviation.  

If you chose to trace a stock image, either from our extensive deviantART resource gallery or from a legitimate external stock source such as sxc.hu or i-stock.com, this can be submitted into the vector or vexel gallery (depending on the method which you use) and we encourage you to supply the appropriate references.

Some deviants and others provide allowance for their artwork to be used within Creative Commons Licensing, which they indicate within the deviation description. Artists who are misled and confused into believing that our tracing policy permits anyone to take any image on deviantART and simply trace it without permission should be assured that we will always remove this when requested by the artist of the original image, and you should use the appropriate reporting tools to bring it to our attention, so we can remove it.

We  encourage artists to take personal responsibility to  ensure that you check the above points before submitting any traced works, in order to avoid disappointment or distress should your work require removal for its failure to comply with any of the above.

It should also be noted, that despite the principles of fair use discussed earlier, we do not allow the use of third-party copyrighted images within the digital art and photomanipulation galleries because of the exposuire they present to deviantART as an administrative burden.

If you are ever in doubt of where you stand regarding the above, please contact us via the help. We can help you with any questions you may have as to whether or not your submission will be appropriate and within policy.

BUT MY FRIEND'S UNCLE'S DAD'S GRANDAD'S COUSIN 5 TIMES REMOVED CALLED BOB SAYS YOU'RE STILL BREAKING THE LAW!

Did Bob help write deviantART Policy? If you can answer YES,  I'll give you $100 to spend in our store.

If not - then you should refer them back to read this article.

SCRAP IT!



Some of you believe that traced work should go to the scrapbook within your gallery. In exploring this idea, it became clear that many of you came to this conclusion based on incorrect notion that somehow calling something a scrap magically lifts it out of copyright and policy considerations. It doesn't particularly do that.

At deviantART we felt that it was more appropriate to provide education to the community on this matter in order to break down some of the myths and misconceptions surrounding tracing. We feel that by providing this information, that we can begin to break down some of the negative attitude which is thrown against certain members of the community who prefer to include traced elements within their work. After all, we are an inclusive - not exclusive, art community.


LAST BUT NOT LEAST...



We'd like to thank you all for participating in what was at times a somewhat heated discussion surrounding this topic. It's important to us at deviantART that you are aware of not only your rights as an artist, but that you are encouraged to take responsibility for your own integrity, ultimately allowing you to become an empowered individual who can confidently express yourself. In the near future, we will bring you more articles like this, which provide you with a simplistic guide to what is at times a very complex field of legalese, and look forward to your ever enthusiastic participation in developing what appears to be a much needed knowledge base on such matters.

And very last, we do have a lawyer and he says I need to point out that this article only contains a very broad general discussion of some copyright principles and it is not actual legal advice that you should rely on elsewhere.

:peace:

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:icondweebzilla:
dweebzilla Featured By Owner May 17, 2015  Student Digital Artist
this is why all the good artists are migrating to other websites lol
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Warriors--Adoptables Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
...why? 
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Evil-Rick Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And is for things like this that deviantart keeps loosing more and more credibility.
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AnUberIsChu Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2014
"we welcome artists who prefer to use tracing as a method of expression to participate in our community"

Glad to see this site's the same as it always was.
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Stephromancy Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
I say bring on the stealing, as long as it's hilarious and provides me with entertainment, like this rather unique piece of raw artistic talent and incomparable skill

My drawing: stephromancy.deviantart.com/ar…
Copy of my drawing: geroj.deviantart.com/art/sophi…

It's like looking into a mirror in a horror movie where your reflection is all distorted and scary looking.
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ladyweasel Featured By Owner May 16, 2014   Digital Artist
I bet if I were to trace an admin's art piece and add "original elements" to the traced work, then my work would not only be reported and removed but my account would either be suspended or banned. :O Or would they not mind? Either way, as others had stated, this rule only encourages art thieves, not creativity. I know this journal is old, but people still comment on it; I just wanted to add my two cents.
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2014  Student Digital Artist
If you really believe tracing original work encourages theft then maybe you have never done art in school? In school tracing is a fundamental taught to beginner artist and it helps them form their own style and does encourage creativity!
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Evil-Rick Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's  referencing, not tracing, check the definition and diference between both mate.
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KrisCynical Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
"...tracing is a fundamental taught to beginner artist and it helps them form their own style and does encourage creativity!"

As an art workshop teacher and tutor here on dA, I can tell you that is about as far from the truth as you can possibly be. :\

Tracing is NOT a fundamental technical aspect of art, and it's only useful for cleaning up your own rough sketches (which is also the only acceptable use of tracing within art school). It certainly doesn't help young artists develop their own style -- all they're doing is tracing the lines put down by another artist in THEIR style.

Artists that young don't need to worry about style anyway. In art school, style isn't addressed until toward the end of your junior year and through your senior year, which is when you receive guidance in "finding" your style. Style is something that develops after the basics (or "reality") have been mastered to the point of being able to convincingly bend that reality without completely breaking it, thus forming a new reality with its own set of rules.

When reality is bent to the point of breaking, that's what is called "crappy anatomy that makes no sense".

Tracing only hinders creativity, because those who do nothing but trace have never learned how to draw on their own in order to BE creative. They have to have someone else's guidelines in order to draw anything. It doesn't teach you to expand beyond what you're tracing, and it quickly becomes a crutch for many young artists because of that.

Tracing teaches you nothing but how to follow a line that's directly in front of your pencil to directly recreate it, which is why it's only useful for teaching preschoolers how to write.

That's why eyeball copying is encouraged in the teen years rather than tracing, because that's what still life drawing really is at its source: eyeball copying what's set up in front of you.

Eyeball copying makes the artist look at the form, proportion, spacing, etc., of the image they're looking at in order to correctly reproduce it on their own sheet of paper. It teaches you form, composition, proportion, negative space, anatomy, and basically how to "see" as an artist to transfer what you're looking at through your hand to the paper.

Eyeballing in art school is usually called "master copying", and it's usually done in painting class. The student chooses a master's painting and reproduces it to the best of their ability, because reproducing it makes them explore the meathods that the master used when originally creating the piece, and through exploring and recreating those methods, the student learns those methods.

If you trace another artist's work in art school, on the other hand, all it does is get you expelled for plagiarism, because that's all it is. Even eyeball copying another artist's work will get you expelled if it's not an exercice in reproduction.

When kids try to learn how to draw by tracing, all they do is stunt their own growth and put themselves behind the usual "curve" of artistic development for their age bracket. That's why it absolutely shouldn't be taught in art classes past Elementary school.
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ladyweasel Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014   Digital Artist
Sorry for the late response; my internet wasn't working until now. I already know that tracing teaches the fundamentals to the beginner artist, but when that is all the artist does and they don't try to branch off and learn how to draw on their own is when tracing becomes a problem. Also, if they don't get the permission from the original artist to trace their work and properly give them credit, they would be labeled as an art thief. I should know; I used to trace.

It became a hindrance in my development as an artist. That is why my art is not where I want it to be. Besides, I also know how it feels to have one's artwork stolen; some of my artwork have been stolen over the years. One could say it was karma for the time when I was tracer, but that didn't and still doesn't make me feel better for having my hard work taken away from me. I am certain that is how the artists who have been the victim of art theft feel every time someone steals, traces, and claims their artwork as their own.

Sorry for the long post; I just wanted to get my two cents in. Oh, and thanks for the :llama:.
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
You're welcome
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Tracing fan art and claiming you did it is indeed considered theft because it's not your original idea and that you're leeching off of someone else's creativity. I believe tracing should only be done to teach yourself to draw. The results should never be shown online since you didn't originally make it. The way you described tracing in school makes it sound like you're in kindergarten. 
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KrisCynical Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
"Tracing fan art and claiming you did it is indeed considered theft..."

It's also considered being lazy and/or an artistically dishonest douchecanoe. :lol:

"...tracing should only be done to teach yourself to draw."

I'm going to disagree there just because tracing doesn't even teach beginners how to draw. It teaches them how to follow a line that's directly in front of their pencil, which is why preschoolers are taught to write their ABCs using tracing.

If you try to bump that over to the art realm, it's just a crutch that very quickly stunts natural artistic development because the person doesn't learn to draw on their own. In my personal experience teaching workshops and tutoring kids here on dA, the ones who traced in the beginning are almost always (and I mean 99% always) behind the curve of where they approximately should be for their age.

Really the best meathod for young artists to learn the bare bones basics of drawing is eyeball copying. It's natural, which is why most all artists go through a phase of doing that, usually in the 10-15 range. I eyeball copied from about 1995-1999, copying Disney stuff and Anastasia at 11-12 and game guides like Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy 8, Xenogears, etc., in junior high. All the while I was drawing things on my own between copying, and by the time I was 15 I had stopped eyeballing completely because it had become boring (because I had outgrown it skill-wise). Most kids do.

Eyeballing is FAR more helpful than tracing because it isn't following a line in front of your pencil, it's looking at the source image as a whole in order to recreate it on a separate sheet of paper. In order to accurately reproduce the image, they have to look at the overall composition (i.e. how it's positioned on the page), form, proportions, anatomy, scale, negative space, etc., which makes them STUDY the image. In addition to teaching them how to draw certain things, it teaches them how to artistically "see" in general, i.e. how to look at something, transfer it to their brain, and then transfer it down through their hand and onto the sheet of paper. That's one of the most iportant things for a young artist to learn, and it's the natural precursor to still life drawing.

And even THEN, eyeball copies shouldn't be posted in their gallery because just as you said about tracings, it's just that: a copy! That would be akin to a pianist playing their scales at a recital instead of a Sonatina. :x
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, yes it is lazy. 

However, we can agree to disagree on this ;) 
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
It is taught in kindergarden (elemetary)
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aren't you a bit young to be on deviantART then? 
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:iconcali-purp:
Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Im 22, making a statement that should be obvious enough for everyone to think of on their own but instead they all choose to lable me a tracer supported making ranting journals about me slandering my name and spam my inbox with haitmail over trying to help artist learn their rights as an artist from section 17 copyright law
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KashimusPrime Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well like it or not tracing is always going to be frowned upon. And by tracing others works without credit or even respectfully asking them before doing so can land one in hot water. Copyright law or no copyright law. Many people do not like others leeching off their hard work. It's considered lazy. Especially to artists who worked hard to teach themselves how to draw and get where they are now only to have brats steal their hard work by tracing it and claiming "I made dis! Dis is mine!" In a pinch, tracing is disrespectful to a lot and can receive negative behavior from peers. 
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I frown upon a lot of things. Like physically punishing children in school, some schools still do it. I really don't care anymore, I traced my own photography and I would like to know... Am I being creative, or lazy? I consider it art and if you don't then that's fine because I don't consider a lot of things art but there are huge amounts of people who do. Its not like I am tracing the mona lisa and claiming it as mine, I am using my own photos and editing and manipulating them into my own creative arts. If i deserve to be preached at about how horrible of a person I am every time I get on DA for that I will just consider leaving. This community is all sorts of fucked up..
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Streled Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014   Traditional Artist
Hey dipshit, I've been to art school.
They do NOT make us trace them by putting a paper on them, they're on the side.
It's to help us learn some them to draw like draw upside-down if needed
NOT TO FUCKING TRACE, DUMBASS!!
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I am talking about public schools not private paid schools, which of course are for higher level artists or kids who just were spoiled by their parents an got whatever they wanted. We all know they best art comes from those who have had it hard in life and had to teach themselves not go to a fancy art school that teach art can be achived if you follow their methods and teaching. Its better to learn from your life experiances.
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EnvySkort Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014
Actually...  I went to public school and all of my art teachers from elementary school and up warned us not to trace.  When we had assignments to do, they expected us to try our hardest to draw what we needed to draw.

The reason for this is because my teachers wanted all of us to recognize our flaws, our weaknesses, etc and improve on them.  They weren't expecting the Sistine Chapel Ceiling; they were expecting to see messed up anatomy, messed up perspective, crappy backgrounds, and inconsistent coloring.

College was even more stringent, where any sign of tracing was apt to get you kicked out of certain art programs.

The reason for this is because, in college, especially if you are trying to be an art major, you are expected to have a competent grasp of the basics that make up everyday compositions in photography, paintings, etc.  When you trace, you are not committing yourself to studies and practices that you've learned over the years; you're taking a shortcut and piggy-backing off of another person's work.  It shows a lack of not only discipline as an artist, but also a lack of respect for the work of others, especially when the tracer doesn't give any bit of credit to the artist/artwork they traced.

And let me tell you...  I've traced once in my lifetime.  Once.

I wanted to draw a picture of Super Sonic for my Father for his birthday many, many years ago, and I just couldn't get it right.  So I traced an image off a comic cover, slapped my name on it, and tried to give it to him.  Needless to say, he noticed it was traced right off the bat, and he questioned me about it.  I denied it a couple of times because I honestly wanted him to believe I was good enough to have drawn the image that well, but ultimately, my conscience kicked in and I admitted that I traced the image.  He was disappointed, and pretty much told me "you're good enough that you don't need to trace; if something doesn't look right, you keep practicing/trying until you get it right.  That's how you grow as an artist."

I was 8 when I did this.  I never did it again afterwards, because my father was right.  I could get better if I practiced, and I did.  And that is what young artists need to be taught.  If you want to be an artist, you can't take shortcuts that are expected of gradeschool children.  You have to take the time to practice, to recognize where your weaknesses as an artist are, and work at fixing them.
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I could care less. stop replying please. Tracing can give a learning curve "that's my opinion".
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EnvySkort Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014
So you say "everyone is entitled to their own opinion" but then you basically tell me to stop talking to you because we disagree.  That's a little hypocritical.

Besides, I was actually polite in answering you.

And also, the correct terminology is "couldn't care less."
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milovanf Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
There you go! :lol: He tried to be a grammar nazi to me, now he is the one who have horrible grammar.
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GlassBottleDemon Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What school are you going to that teaches that? Because that's bullshit.

Please name one famous artist who got famous by tracing another person's art. Guess what, you can't.

In art school you are taught to draw from life and use references, NOT trace.
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:iconkashimusprime:
KashimusPrime Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Only kindergarten teaches that :icon0u0plz: 
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Oh yea I remember you. You were in my class and we sat next to each other. Your the kid that got held back for not tracing his ABC's... Sorry its taught in school over an over in different areas and aspect of education. Read a book, and not these comments. Good bye!
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EnvySkort Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014
Children are taught to trace their ABCs so that they learn their ABCs and how the stroke orders go. 

Artists, however, are encouraged against tracing because tracing goes against the fundamental building block of being an artist: practicing.
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GlassBottleDemon Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Tracing letters =/= tracing art.

Why don't you use your own logic and go read a book about famous artists and how they did everything but trace?
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
don't talk to me... im busy :P
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GlassBottleDemon Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Then stop replying yourself, moron.
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xXShivaChanXx Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014
((Don't bother with her. She will ether have "proof" that is crap at best, or will try to change the conversation (especially when she doesn't even read half of what you say) or go to petty insults when all else fails, followed by crying to admins when nothing goes her way. She needs to learn not to dish it out, if she can't take the heat. ))
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GlassBottleDemon Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Tracing letters =/= tracing art.

Why don't you use your own logic and go read a book about famous artists and how they did everything but trace?
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xXShivaChanXx Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014
((As long as permission is granted by the original artist, it's fine here. However tracing someone else's work WITHOUT permission and going "Yeah I drew this!" IS theft, no matter how you try to twist the truth. There is a little thing called copyright infringement, that you might want to look up, and if you do know it, then take that into consideration when claiming tracing is art. And before you harp about art classes, I have taken many courses in art, and not once have any art teacher I know of, encourage the use of tracing.  However like you said, it CAN help in some ways in helping one's skill through practice. However that is all it is, practice. Name me one piece of famous art that  was produced through tracing, or even a famous artist who uses tracing for their artwork. ))
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
www.collisiondetection.net/mt/… there is your famous lol
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xXShivaChanXx Featured By Owner Edited Sep 8, 2014
(("A controversial book suggests that the Old Masters were quietly getting some technological help on the side." Keyword, controversial Other then claims and what other people THINK they did, there is no actual PROOF it was done, was it possible? Maybe. Is there concrete proof they did? No, hence the controversy. I am aware some believe that's what they did, but until I see indisputable proof they actually did and not mere claims, it doesn't count. I am going to go on a wild guess that you googled for your answer. Nice try though lol. ))  
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I really could care less heres a nice governmental document you can read about art and fair use and why it can be used for education without an artists consent: www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.ht…

I don't agree with it however, I believe you should have an artists consent to publish the works.

Other than that tracing is perfectly fine and in no way harmful to original artist.

A lot of artists are paranoid in my opinion. Check out this guy who started a crazy rant jounal complaining about how I support tracing...

fight4justice.deviantart.com/j…

You know what this is called right? Defaming someone... that's illegal.
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I apologize I did read what you wrote I but I stopped half way through getting distracted easily. People keep messing with me now I have a group dedicated to making rant journals against me xD wow DeviantART dark side for real!
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xXShivaChanXx Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014
((I am aware of all that, I had originally said tracing posting it fine as long as you get permission. That was literally the first thing I said in the beginning. The only time I have an issue is there is either no permission giving, and violates the copyright infringement law.  The only way you and I would have an issue is if you support that kind of tracing right there. However you do believe that one must get permission and so on, so we're good. But you and I can just simply agree to disagree on how tracing is art. ))
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
but in sections 107 through 118 of the copyright law (title 17, U. S. CodeSection 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered fair, such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. In these particular cases the (tracer,copier,manipulator,editor,distorter,thief) does not need permission. Which is understandable if you read the whole section 17. The government allowed this for news media, education, and many other things that wouldn't be ANYTHING without the right to post original works without permission. Imagine every time the new station used a photo or a logo or a drawing they got sued. That is what is happening here. Every time a artist uses anothers work to trace (even if its just for education); the original artist always claims theft and copyright infringement. (EVERY TIME) its really sad. People should have freedom of expression and part of that is being able to use other peoples ideas in your own art. Instead of seeing it as a win win (good for everyone) situation people really seem to try to turn it into a bunch of drama for no reason.
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Yousie6 Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
no its not , what the hell of a school dose that?
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
elementary, jr high an high school in ca usa
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Yousie6 Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well tell your crap art teachers that its wrong and unskillful (even then i still dont believe you)
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
www.copyright.gov/title17/
www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.ht…

Here is some educational reading material.
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Yousie6 Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
what about a simple thing not a hole book, come on im playing tf2 here
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Cali-Purp Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered fair, such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. 
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xXShivaChanXx Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014
( Not a single art teacher I know of, has ever encouraged the use of tracing, and even frowned upon it. If they ever have found out any student of theirs traced something, they would have either made them redo it by their own skills or just flat out gave them a low grade for that project. ))
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KrisCynical Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
When I was in college (Ringling) for my illustration degree, tracing/copying something that wasn't yours, even if only a single element of a larger piece, was considered plagiarism and grounds for expulsion from not only the department but the SCHOOL ITSELF. It happened to a couple sophomores when I was a junior.

Go directly to jail home. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
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